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American Crew Firm Hold Styling Cream vs Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold

99% function match · 8 of the 8 functions we compared match Formula overlap 0%. American Crew Firm Hold Styling Cream and Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold share no ingredient among each other's most prominent — which does not stop them doing the same job.

Based on your consultation

Which of these fits your hair?

We check your pattern, moisture need, scalp, fragrance tolerance, weight sensitivity and more against each formula — and say which one lines up.

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When each one is the right call

What each formula is built for, from its own ingredient list.

  • Firm Hold Styling Cream — curl definition
  • Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold — protein-hungry hair

Side by side

Every trait, aligned

One row per trait, read from each product’s own ingredient list and record. A dash means we have not researched that field for that product — it is not a “no”.

Trait
American Crew Firm Hold Styling Cream — container, alternate view American Crew

Firm Hold Styling Cream

  • Styler
  • Masstige
Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold — 6 oz container Not Your Mother's

Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold

  • Styler
  • Drugstore
  • Sulfate-free
  • Silicone-free
Price, size & price per ounce
$18.50 3.3 oz · $4.22/oz
$10–11 6 oz · $1.76/oz
Value / price positioning
Same job for less elsewhere $$$$$ Masstige tier · costs more than 85% of the 157 gels we’ve priced
Priced with its peers $$$$$ Drugstore tier · costs less than 58% of the 157 gels we’ve priced
Best for hair types
Wavy–Coily Co-washes, curl creams, and gels are built around wave and curl. Your hair
Wavy–Coily Co-washes, curl creams, and gels are built around wave and curl. Your hair
Moisture level Same
Moderate Humectants in the working part of the formula. Your hair
Moderate Humectants in the working part of the formula. Your hair
Hold system Same
High Synthetic hold polymers — the firmest of the hold systems. Your hair
Synthetic polymer Synthetic hold polymers — the firmest of the hold systems. Your hair
Slip / detangling Same
Little Nothing here is built to reduce combing force. Your hair
Little Nothing here is built to reduce combing force. Your hair
Fragrance
Prominent Fragrance sits in the first eight ingredients — a larger share of the formula. Your hair
Present Fragrance is listed; it sits below the working ingredients. Your hair
Silicone / wax buildup Same
None Nothing here needs a detergent wash to remove. Your hair
None Nothing here needs a detergent wash to remove. Your hair
Clarifying wash needed
Low Your hair
Low Your hair
Hold (as stated)
—
Strong A strong hold, as stated by the brand. Your hair
Weight on hair
—
Light Water-first and light: unlikely to flatten fine hair. Your hair
Protein
—
Prominent Protein high in the list — a strengthening formula, not a moisture one. Your hair
Cast risk Same
Likely Film formers without much softening them — expect a cast to scrunch out. Your hair
Likely Film formers without much softening them — expect a cast to scrunch out. Your hair
Oil absorption Same
None No absorbent powders or starches. Your hair
None No absorbent powders or starches. Your hair
Oils and butters Same
None No oils or butters in the list. Your hair
None No oils or butters in the list. Your hair
Fast-drying alcohol
—
None No fast-drying alcohol in the list. Your hair
Formula completeness
out of 10
Covers the core
out of 10
Complete for its job
Who should choose this
  • Curl definitionfilm formers hold a clump together
  • Protein-hungry hairthat stretches and stays stretched when wet
  • Curly-method routinesno sulfates and no water-insoluble silicones
  • Curl definitionfilm formers hold a clump together
  • Fine hairthat flattens under most products
Why you might skip it
  • Scents bother youthis product carries a scent
  • Anyone who dislikes a castthe film formers here can set firm
  • Picking it up locallywe have it recorded in one channel only
  • Scents bother youthis product carries a scent
  • Protein-sensitive hairthat goes stiff or straw-like on protein
  • Anyone who dislikes a castthe film formers here can set firm
from the formula stated by the brand reported by reviewers Scale: 1 dot low · 5 dots high, within this product type.
More facts about each one
Type
Stylercream
Stylerspray
Where to buy
Brand website
Brand website · Grocery / mass
Free of
—
  • sulfate-free
  • silicone-free
  • curly-method compatible
Scent
Scented, not described
Scented, not described
Hold
—
strong
Finish
—
shine
How often
—
as needed

Facts as we recorded them. A dash means we have not researched that field for that product — it is not a "no".

The bottom line

The bottom line depends on your hair

Which of these two suits you is a question about your hair, not about them. The consultation answers it — and tells you what your routine needs around it.

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The detail behind the table

Where the readings above come from: the ingredient lists themselves, each brand’s claims checked against them, what owners report, and cost per ounce in context.

Shared and distinct ingredients

Shared and distinct ingredients

Computed from the ingredient lists as printed. "Shared" means both lists carry it; where it sits on each label is stated, because position is what tells you how much.

What both formulas carry

IngredientFirm Hold Styling CreamCurl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold
Water
Neutral
#1Leading
#1Leading
Fragrance
Fragrance
#8Below the 1% line
#14Below the 1% line
Limonene
Fragrance
#10Below the 1% line
#16Below the 1% line
Linalool
Fragrance
#11Below the 1% line
#15Below the 1% line
Hydroxycitronellal
Fragrance
#16Below the 1% line
#17Below the 1% line

What only one of them carries

Firm Hold Styling Cream

Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold

Full ingredient list — Firm Hold Styling Cream (19)
Full ingredient list — Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold (18)

Claims check

What each brand says, against what each formula shows

Claims are quoted from each brand. We only mark one supported, partly supported, or conflicting when that product’s ingredient list actually speaks to it.

VerdictsFirm Hold Styling CreamCurl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold
Supported
1
6
Partly supported
0
0
Stated by brand
1
1
Potential conflict
0
0

Firm Hold Styling Cream

  • Non-flaking gel-cream with strong, lasting holdSupportedStructure that lasts the day.
  • Thickened appearance and shine from panthenol, copolymer and castor oilStated by brandCan’t be confirmed from label.

Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold

  • Lightweight spray enhances definition without weighing curls downSupportedLess likely to weigh hair down.
  • Controls frizzSupportedSmoother strands, less frizz.
  • Boosts volumeSupportedLeaves room for lift.
  • Strong hold without a gel castSupportedStructure that lasts the day.
  • Never sticky, no buildupStated by brandCan’t be confirmed from label.
  • Formulated with Rice Curl Complex – a blend of rice, keratin amino acids, and enzymesSupportedThe named ingredient is really there.
  • Infused with a Superfood Oil Blend to hydrate curls and add shineSupportedHelps hair feel hydrated.

What owners say

What people report

Recurring themes our researchers wrote in their own words from sourced reviews. We do not store or scrape star ratings, and we never balance one product’s themes against another’s by inventing them.

Firm Hold Styling Cream

Several reviewers say it does not flake or cake up the way other styling creams do.

Multiple reviewers say the hold lasts only until midday and needs reapplication.

Reviewers repeatedly complain that the product has been discontinued or sold out and ask the brand to bring it back.

Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold

Multiple reviewers say the spray gel holds curls without the stiff, crunchy cast typical of gels, keeping curls feeling natural.

Several reviewers report the spray/pump mechanism sticking, clogging, or dispensing unevenly, making it hard to apply enough product for a real hold.

A recurring complaint, especially from reviewers with thicker or very curly/coily hair, is that the hold is too weak or short-lived and curls fall flat within hours.

Reviewers with looser wave or curl patterns (2C-3A) more often report the strong-hold claim holds up, with curls springing up nicely without added stiffness.

Price check

Cost per ounce, in context

Cost per ounce against every product of this type we have priced, each at the size it is most often sold in. Value labels are computed from that percentile and from how many products that do the same job cost less; they are comparisons, not judgements about a brand.

$1.76/oz vs $4.22/oz — American Crew Firm Hold Styling Cream costs about 2.4× more per ounce than Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold.

$0.31/oz median $2.12/oz $10.59/oz $4.22/oz Firm Hold Styling Cream $1.76/oz Curl Talk Defining Spray G

Every mark sits on one distribution because these are compared against the same set: 157 gels with a computable unit price.

Value readFirm Hold Styling CreamCurl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold
Label
Same job for less elsewhereYou are paying above the range for a formula close to several lower-priced options.
Priced with its peersSits in the middle of the range for gels per ounce.

Computed from cost per ounce against every product of this type we have priced, and from how many products that do the same job cost less. It is a comparison, not a judgement about the brand.

Compare with something else

Close formulas to each of these, as their own comparison pages.

Firm Hold Styling Cream vs 121 Proof Thickening Style GelBlind Barber · 99% function matchCurl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold vs Texturizing Sea Salt Spray for Tousled StylesOdele · 96% function matchFirm Hold Styling Cream vs Styling Gel 17Kenra Professional · 99% function matchCurl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold vs Lavender Aloe Smoothing GelEden BodyWorks · 96% function matchFirm Hold Styling Cream vs Castor Oil Curly Styling GelMixed Chicks · 99% function matchCurl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold vs Kids Sensitive Hair Style FoamSoCozy · 96% function matchFirm Hold Styling Cream vs Living Proof Style Lab Flex HairsprayLiving Proof · 99% function matchCurl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold vs Sea Salt SprayMurdock London · 94% function match

Firm Hold Styling Cream · Curl Talk Defining Spray Gel Strong Hold · All gels in the library

How this page was made

  • This page is assembled from the same researched records the individual product pages render: identity, each ingredient list as printed, each brand's own claims, dated price observations, and review themes written in our researchers' own words. Nothing on it is written per comparison.
  • We do not rank these against each other. Which of them suits you depends on your hair, and that is what the consultation works out.
  • The formula similarity percentage is a stored, precomputed number: position-weighted overlap of the two ingredient lists blended with agreement on the attributes we derive. It measures how alike two formulas are, not how well either works.
  • The value band is a fixed label over two stored numbers: this product’s cost per ounce as a percentile of every product of this type we have priced, each at the size it is most often sold in, and how many products we score as doing the same job cost at least a quarter less per ounce.
  • The "Is this right for you?" panel reads only your own consultation answers, and it applies exactly the filters our recommendation engine applies. It is computed when you load the page and is never stored on it.
  • 9 sources were consulted across the products on this page.
  • Ingredient order tells you relative amount only above roughly 1%. Prices are observations on the dates shown and change without notice. We do not sell these products and take no placement fees.
  • This is cosmetic information, not medical advice, and nothing here diagnoses or treats a health condition.

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