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Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Defining Cream vs Not Your Mother's Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder

52% function match · 6 of the 13 functions we compared match Formula overlap 0%. Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Defining Cream and Not Your Mother's Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder share no ingredient among each other's most prominent — which does not stop them doing the same job.

Based on your consultation

Which of these fits your hair?

We check your pattern, moisture need, scalp, fragrance tolerance, weight sensitivity and more against each formula — and say which one lines up.

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When each one is the right call

What each formula is built for, from its own ingredient list.

  • Curl Talk Defining Cream — maximum slip
  • Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder — protein-sensitive hair

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Every trait, aligned

One row per trait, read from each product’s own ingredient list and record. A dash means we have not researched that field for that product — it is not a “no”.

Trait
Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Defining Cream — 6 oz container Not Your Mother's

Curl Talk Defining Cream

  • Styler
  • Drugstore
  • Sulfate-free
  • Silicone-free
Not Your Mother's Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder — 0.5 oz container Not Your Mother's

Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder

  • Styler
  • Masstige
  • Sulfate-free
  • Silicone-free
Price, size & price per ounce
$9–11 6 oz · $1.69/oz
$6 0.5 oz · $20.99/oz

Compared at different sizes — 6 oz against 0.5 oz. Per-ounce prices favour the larger bottle.

Value / price positioning
Priced with its peers $$$$$ Drugstore tier · costs less than 58% of the 105 curl creams we’ve priced
Same job for less elsewhere $$$$$ Masstige tier · costs more than 92% of the 64 volumizers we’ve priced
Best for hair types
Wavy–Coily Co-washes, curl creams, and gels are built around wave and curl. Your hair
Straight–Wavy A light volumising formula — the lift it adds matters most on straighter hair. Your hair
Moisture level Differs
None found No humectants found — nothing here pulls water into the hair. Your hair
High Humectants near the top — water-binding is a headline mechanism here. Your hair
Hold system Differs
High Synthetic hold polymers — the firmest of the hold systems. Your hair
Moderate Gums and synthetic polymers together. Your hair
Slip / detangling Differs
High Conditioning agents sit high in the list — this is a detangling formula. Your hair
Some Some slip, mostly from esters or silicones rather than conditioners. Your hair
Weight on hair Differs
Medium Middle of the range — noticeable on fine hair, light on coarse hair. Your hair
Light Water-first and light: unlikely to flatten fine hair. Your hair
Fragrance
Present Fragrance is listed; it sits below the working ingredients. Your hair
Present Fragrance is listed; it sits below the working ingredients. Your hair
Protein Differs
Minor Protein appears, low enough to be a supporting ingredient. Your hair
None No protein or amino acids in the list. Your hair
Silicone / wax buildup Same
None Nothing here needs a detergent wash to remove. Your hair
None Nothing here needs a detergent wash to remove. Your hair
Clarifying wash needed
Low Your hair
Low Your hair
Cast risk Same
Unlikely Softening ingredients sit alongside the film formers, so a hard shell is unlikely. Your hair
Unlikely Softening ingredients sit alongside the film formers, so a hard shell is unlikely. Your hair
Humidity resistance
Claimed The brand claims humidity resistance; the ingredient list cannot confirm it. Your hair
Oil absorption Differs
None No absorbent powders or starches. Your hair
High Absorbent powders or starches high in the list. Your hair
Oils and butters Same
None No oils or butters in the list. Your hair
None No oils or butters in the list. Your hair
Fast-drying alcohol Same
None No fast-drying alcohol in the list. Your hair
None No fast-drying alcohol in the list. Your hair
Formula completeness
out of 10
Complete for its job
out of 10
Complete for its job
Who should choose this
  • Maximum slipfor hair that tangles the moment it is wet
  • Curly-method routinesno sulfates and no water-insoluble silicones
  • Curl definitionfilm formers hold a clump together
  • Silicone-free routinesno silicones appear in the list
  • Protein-sensitive hairthat stiffens when protein is added
  • Dry, thirsty hairhumectants and emollients both sit up front
  • Curly-method routinesno sulfates and no water-insoluble silicones
  • Curl definitionfilm formers hold a clump together
Why you might skip it
  • Scents bother youthis product carries a scent
  • Vegan and cruelty-freeour record does not support both claims here
  • Picking it up locallywe have it recorded in one channel only
  • Scents bother youthis product carries a scent
  • Dry or very humid airwhere heavy humectants work against you
  • Picking it up locallywe have it recorded in one channel only
from the formula stated by the brand reported by reviewers Scale: 1 dot low · 5 dots high, within this product type.
More facts about each one
Type
Stylercream
Stylerpowder
Where to buy
Brand website
Ulta
Free of
  • sulfate-free
  • silicone-free
  • curly-method compatible
  • sulfate-free
  • silicone-free
  • protein-free
  • curly-method compatible
Vegan
Not vegan · label states
Scent
Scented, not described
Scented, not described
Finish
natural
Humidity claim
Yes
How often
every wash
as needed

Facts as we recorded them. A dash means we have not researched that field for that product — it is not a "no".

The bottom line

The bottom line depends on your hair

Which of these two suits you is a question about your hair, not about them. The consultation answers it — and tells you what your routine needs around it.

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The detail behind the table

Where the readings above come from: the ingredient lists themselves, each brand’s claims checked against them, what owners report, and cost per ounce in context.

Shared and distinct ingredients

Shared and distinct ingredients

Computed from the ingredient lists as printed. "Shared" means both lists carry it; where it sits on each label is stated, because position is what tells you how much.

What both formulas carry

IngredientCurl Talk Defining CreamPlump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder
Water
Neutral
#1Leading
#1Leading
Phenoxyethanol
Stabilizes
#16Below the 1% line
#6Below the 1% line
Fragrance
Fragrance
#17Below the 1% line
#10Below the 1% line
Limonene
Fragrance
#19Below the 1% line
#13Below the 1% line

What only one of them carries

Full ingredient list — Curl Talk Defining Cream (21)
Full ingredient list — Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder (15)

Claims check

What each brand says, against what each formula shows

Claims are quoted from each brand. We only mark one supported, partly supported, or conflicting when that product’s ingredient list actually speaks to it.

VerdictsCurl Talk Defining CreamPlump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder
Supported
6
2
Partly supported
0
0
Stated by brand
1
2
Potential conflict
0
0

Curl Talk Defining Cream

  • Maximizes curl definitionSupportedHolds a clump together.
  • Seals in moistureStated by brandCan’t be confirmed from label.
  • Controls frizzSupportedSmoother strands, less frizz.
  • Sulfate-freeSupportedGentler on colour and coils.
  • Silicone-freeSupportedNothing that needs a strong wash.
  • Paraben-freeSupportedPreserved without parabens.
  • Drying-alcohol-freeSupportedNothing that flashes off dry.

Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder

  • immediate volumeSupportedLeaves room for lift.
  • maximum lift and textureSupportedLeaves room for lift.
  • talc-freeStated by brandCan’t be confirmed from label.
  • invisible powderStated by brandCan’t be confirmed from label.

What owners say

What people report

Recurring themes our researchers wrote in their own words from sourced reviews. We do not store or scrape star ratings, and we never balance one product’s themes against another’s by inventing them.

Not Your Mother's Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder draws complaints about residue or cast and volume.

Curl Talk Defining Cream

Does exactly what it says and smells great

brand-site reviewer, 5-star

Lightweight feel while still controlling frizz

brand-site reviewer, 5-star

Defines curls without leaving hair greasy or weighed down

brand-site reviewer, 5-star

Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder

Gives good root lift with no visible buildup and is invisible in the hair; plans to repurchase

Ulta reviewer "Cheryl", 5 stars

Volumizes hair perfectly and reviewer loves the result

Ulta reviewer "lilliannanicole", Iowa, 5 stars

Left a sticky texture on both hair and fingers after rubbing it in, disappointing given expectations

Ulta reviewer "Ria", Houston TX, 1 star

On fine, pin-straight 1a hair the powder only made hair sticky with no volume payoff

Ulta reviewer "sam", Chicago IL, 1 star

First-time user says it took a few tries to figure out application before getting the full volumizing benefit

Ulta reviewer "Susan W", Las Vegas, 5 stars

Price check

Cost per ounce, in context

Cost per ounce against every product of this type we have priced, each at the size it is most often sold in. Value labels are computed from that percentile and from how many products that do the same job cost less; they are comparisons, not judgements about a brand.

$1.69/oz vs $20.99/oz — Not Your Mother's Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder costs about 12× more per ounce than Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Defining Cream.

Curl Talk Defining Cream

Against 105 curl creams with a computable unit price.

Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder

Against 64 volumizers with a computable unit price.

Value readCurl Talk Defining CreamPlump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder
Label
Priced with its peersSits in the middle of the range for curl creams per ounce.
Same job for less elsewhereYou are paying above the range for a formula close to several lower-priced options.

Computed from cost per ounce against every product of this type we have priced, and from how many products that do the same job cost less. It is a comparison, not a judgement about the brand.

Compare with something else

Close formulas to each of these, as their own comparison pages.

Curl Talk Defining Cream · Plump for Joy Instant Volume Root Powder · All curl creams in the library

How this page was made

  • This page is assembled from the same researched records the individual product pages render: identity, each ingredient list as printed, each brand's own claims, dated price observations, and review themes written in our researchers' own words. Nothing on it is written per comparison.
  • We do not rank these against each other. Which of them suits you depends on your hair, and that is what the consultation works out.
  • The formula similarity percentage is a stored, precomputed number: position-weighted overlap of the two ingredient lists blended with agreement on the attributes we derive. It measures how alike two formulas are, not how well either works.
  • The value band is a fixed label over two stored numbers: this product’s cost per ounce as a percentile of every product of this type we have priced, each at the size it is most often sold in, and how many products we score as doing the same job cost at least a quarter less per ounce.
  • The "Is this right for you?" panel reads only your own consultation answers, and it applies exactly the filters our recommendation engine applies. It is computed when you load the page and is never stored on it.
  • 2 sources were consulted across the products on this page.
  • Ingredient order tells you relative amount only above roughly 1%. Prices are observations on the dates shown and change without notice. We do not sell these products and take no placement fees.
  • This is cosmetic information, not medical advice, and nothing here diagnoses or treats a health condition.

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