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Kenra Professional Platinum Thickening Mousse 12 vs Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream

89% function match · 10 of the 13 functions we compared match Formula overlap 0%. Kenra Professional Platinum Thickening Mousse 12 and Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream share no ingredient among each other's most prominent — which does not stop them doing the same job.

Based on your consultation

Which of these fits your hair?

We check your pattern, moisture need, scalp, fragrance tolerance, weight sensitivity and more against each formula — and say which one lines up.

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When each one is the right call

What each formula is built for, from its own ingredient list.

  • Platinum Thickening Mousse 12 — protein-sensitive hair
  • Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream — fragrance-free

Side by side

Every trait, aligned

One row per trait, read from each product’s own ingredient list and record. A dash means we have not researched that field for that product — it is not a “no”.

Trait
Kenra Professional Platinum Thickening Mousse 12 — 6.7 oz container Kenra Professional

Platinum Thickening Mousse 12

  • Styler
  • Masstige
  • Sulfate-free
  • Silicone-free
Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream — 6 oz container Not Your Mother's

Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream

  • Styler
  • Drugstore
  • Sulfate-free
  • Silicone-free
Price, size & price per ounce
$12–25 6.7 oz · $3.36/oz
$9–11 6 oz · $1.69/oz
Value / price positioning
Upper-mid price for a mouss $$$$$ Masstige tier · costs more than 64% of the 138 mousses we’ve priced
Priced with its peers $$$$$ Drugstore tier · costs less than 58% of the 105 curl creams we’ve priced
Best for hair types
All types Nothing in the formula or the claims narrows this to one pattern. Your hair
Wavy–Coily Co-washes, curl creams, and gels are built around wave and curl. Your hair
Moisture level Same
None found No humectants found — nothing here pulls water into the hair. Your hair
None found No humectants found — nothing here pulls water into the hair. Your hair
Hold (as stated)
Light A light hold, as stated by the brand. Your hair
Strong A strong hold, as stated by the brand. Your hair
Slip / detangling Same
High Conditioning agents sit high in the list — this is a detangling formula. Your hair
High Conditioning agents sit high in the list — this is a detangling formula. Your hair
Weight on hair Differs
Medium Middle of the range — noticeable on fine hair, light on coarse hair. Your hair
Rich Heavy butters and waxes in the first eight ingredients. Your hair
Fragrance
Present Fragrance is listed; it sits below the working ingredients. Your hair
None listed No fragrance is listed. Your hair
Protein Same
None No protein or amino acids in the list. Your hair
None No protein or amino acids in the list. Your hair
Silicone / wax buildup Same
None Nothing here needs a detergent wash to remove. Your hair
None Nothing here needs a detergent wash to remove. Your hair
Clarifying wash needed
Low Your hair
Low Your hair
Hold system Same
Synthetic polymer Synthetic hold polymers — the firmest of the hold systems. Your hair
Synthetic polymer Synthetic hold polymers — the firmest of the hold systems. Your hair
Cast risk Differs
Likely Film formers without much softening them — expect a cast to scrunch out. Your hair
Unlikely Softening ingredients sit alongside the film formers, so a hard shell is unlikely. Your hair
Humidity resistance
Claimed The brand claims humidity resistance; the ingredient list cannot confirm it. Your hair
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Oil absorption Same
None No absorbent powders or starches. Your hair
None No absorbent powders or starches. Your hair
Oils and butters Same
None No oils or butters in the list. Your hair
None No oils or butters in the list. Your hair
Fast-drying alcohol Same
None No fast-drying alcohol in the list. Your hair
None No fast-drying alcohol in the list. Your hair
Formula completeness
out of 10
Covers the core
out of 10
Complete for its job
Who should choose this
  • Protein-sensitive hairthat stiffens when protein is added
  • Maximum slipfor hair that tangles the moment it is wet
  • Curly-method routinesno sulfates and no water-insoluble silicones
  • Curl definitionfilm formers hold a clump together
  • Fragrance-freeno fragrance (parfum) on the label
  • Unscentedfree of strong smells
  • Protein-sensitive hairthat stiffens when protein is added
  • Maximum slipfor hair that tangles the moment it is wet
Why you might skip it
  • Scents bother youthis product carries a scent
  • Anyone who dislikes a castthe film formers here can set firm
  • Styles that must holdthe brand states a light hold at most
  • Oily scalp or fine hairthat gets weighed down
  • Soft, touchable finishesthe brand states a firm hold
  • If scent matters to younothing is added here
from the formula stated by the brand reported by reviewers Scale: 1 dot low · 5 dots high, within this product type.
More facts about each one
Type
Stylerfoam
Stylercream
Where to buy
Ulta · Amazon · Beauty supply …
Ulta · Brand website
Free of
  • sulfate-free
  • silicone-free
  • protein-free
  • curly-method compatible
  • sulfate-free
  • silicone-free
  • fragrance-free
  • protein-free
  • curly-method compatible
Cruelty-free
Cruelty-free · PETA-listed
—
Scent
Scented, not described
Unscented
Hold
lightFlexible, light hold lasts up to 24 hours
strongFlake-free, flexible firm hold
Finish
natural
—
Humidity claim
Yes
—
How often
as needed
every wash

Facts as we recorded them. A dash means we have not researched that field for that product — it is not a "no".

The bottom line

The bottom line depends on your hair

Which of these two suits you is a question about your hair, not about them. The consultation answers it — and tells you what your routine needs around it.

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The detail behind the table

Where the readings above come from: the ingredient lists themselves, each brand’s claims checked against them, what owners report, and cost per ounce in context.

Shared and distinct ingredients

Shared and distinct ingredients

Computed from the ingredient lists as printed. "Shared" means both lists carry it; where it sits on each label is stated, because position is what tells you how much.

What both formulas carry

IngredientPlatinum Thickening Mousse 12Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream
Water
Neutral
#1Leading
#1Leading
Phenoxyethanol
Stabilizes
#8Below the 1% line
#11Below the 1% line

What only one of them carries

Platinum Thickening Mousse 12

Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream

Full ingredient list — Platinum Thickening Mousse 12 (11)
Full ingredient list — Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream (12)

Claims check

What each brand says, against what each formula shows

Claims are quoted from each brand. We only mark one supported, partly supported, or conflicting when that product’s ingredient list actually speaks to it.

VerdictsPlatinum Thickening Mousse 12Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream
Supported
2
4
Partly supported
0
0
Stated by brand
2
0
Potential conflict
1
0

Platinum Thickening Mousse 12

  • Plumps each strand of hair by up to 150%Stated by brandOnly the brand’s testing shows this.
  • Resists humidity for up to 48 hoursSupportedSmoother strands, less frizz.
  • Flexible, light hold lasts up to 24 hoursSupportedStructure that lasts the day.
  • Thermal protection up to 428 degrees FStated by brandOnly lab testing can show this.
  • Non-flaking, brushable finishPotential conflictExpect a cast you have to scrunch out.

Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream

  • Flake-free, flexible firm holdSupportedStructure that lasts the day.
  • Maximizes definitionSupportedHolds a clump together.
  • Controls frizzSupportedSmoother strands, less frizz.
  • Fragrance and protein freeSupportedFine for protein-sensitive hair.

What owners say

What people report

Recurring themes our researchers wrote in their own words from sourced reviews. We do not store or scrape star ratings, and we never balance one product’s themes against another’s by inventing them.

Kenra Professional Platinum Thickening Mousse 12 draws complaints about weight and volume; Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream draws complaints about curl definition.

Platinum Thickening Mousse 12

Reviewer with very fine hair said this was the first volumizing product that actually worked for them

Ulta reviewer, fine hair

Reviewer repeatedly repurchases, switching from the regular (non-Platinum) Kenra mousse to this one and keeps one can after another

Ulta reviewer, repeat buyer

Reviewer with fine hair said it made hair feel immediately greasy and did not add fullness

Ulta reviewer, fine hair

Reviewer with very thin/fine hair found it too heavy, weighing hair down despite the 'light hold' label claim

Ulta reviewer, very fine/thin hair

Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream

Appreciates that the fragrance-free formula doesn't clash with personal perfume or scent preferences

Ulta reviewer sensitive to added fragrance

Defines and de-frizzes curls with excellent curl definition and moisture sealing

Ulta reviewer with curly hair

Product seemed to disappear into the hair strands without leaving hold or visible definition behind

Ulta reviewer

Found it lacked effectiveness on tighter curl patterns (3a and beyond), not providing enough definition for that texture

Ulta reviewer with type 3a+ curls

Price check

Cost per ounce, in context

Cost per ounce against every product of this type we have priced, each at the size it is most often sold in. Value labels are computed from that percentile and from how many products that do the same job cost less; they are comparisons, not judgements about a brand.

$1.69/oz vs $3.36/oz — Kenra Professional Platinum Thickening Mousse 12 costs about 2× more per ounce than Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream.

Platinum Thickening Mousse 12

Against 138 mousses with a computable unit price.

Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream

Against 105 curl creams with a computable unit price.

Value readPlatinum Thickening Mousse 12Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream
Label
Upper-mid price for a moussSits in the middle of the range for mousses per ounce.
Priced with its peersSits in the middle of the range for curl creams per ounce.

Computed from cost per ounce against every product of this type we have priced, and from how many products that do the same job cost less. It is a comparison, not a judgement about the brand.

Compare with something else

Close formulas to each of these, as their own comparison pages.

Platinum Thickening Mousse 12 vs TRESemmé Extra Hold MousseTRESemmé · 93% function matchCurl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream vs Curl Talk Fragrance Free Defining CreamNot Your Mother's · 100% function matchPlatinum Thickening Mousse 12 vs Total Volume Plumping MousseTRESemme · 93% function matchCurl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream vs Curl Talk Defining CreamNot Your Mother's · 93% function matchPlatinum Thickening Mousse 12 vs Kickstarter Thickening MousseJohn Frieda · 93% function matchCurl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream vs Curl Talk To Go Mini Styling KitNot Your Mother's · 93% function matchPlatinum Thickening Mousse 12 vs Full Volume Mousse Maximum Body & LiftRedken · 89% function matchCurl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream vs Whipped Vanilla Cream Curl Enhancing GelDONNA'S RECIPE · 89% function match

Platinum Thickening Mousse 12 · Curl Talk Fragrance & Protein Free Defining Cream · All mousses in the library

How this page was made

  • This page is assembled from the same researched records the individual product pages render: identity, each ingredient list as printed, each brand's own claims, dated price observations, and review themes written in our researchers' own words. Nothing on it is written per comparison.
  • We do not rank these against each other. Which of them suits you depends on your hair, and that is what the consultation works out.
  • The formula similarity percentage is a stored, precomputed number: position-weighted overlap of the two ingredient lists blended with agreement on the attributes we derive. It measures how alike two formulas are, not how well either works.
  • The value band is a fixed label over two stored numbers: this product’s cost per ounce as a percentile of every product of this type we have priced, each at the size it is most often sold in, and how many products we score as doing the same job cost at least a quarter less per ounce.
  • The "Is this right for you?" panel reads only your own consultation answers, and it applies exactly the filters our recommendation engine applies. It is computed when you load the page and is never stored on it.
  • 3 sources were consulted across the products on this page.
  • Ingredient order tells you relative amount only above roughly 1%. Prices are observations on the dates shown and change without notice. We do not sell these products and take no placement fees.
  • This is cosmetic information, not medical advice, and nothing here diagnoses or treats a health condition.

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