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Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam vs Odele Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold

93% function match · 12 of the 13 functions we compared match Formula overlap 27%. Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam and Odele Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold share 3 ingredients among each other's most prominent.

Based on your consultation

Which of these fits your hair?

We check your pattern, moisture need, scalp, fragrance tolerance, weight sensitivity and more against each formula — and say which one lines up.

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When each one is the right call

What each formula is built for, from its own ingredient list.

  • Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam — curly-method routines
  • Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold — protein-hungry hair

Side by side

Every trait, aligned

One row per trait, read from each product’s own ingredient list and record. A dash means we have not researched that field for that product — it is not a “no”.

Trait
Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam — 8 oz container Not Your Mother's

Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam

  • Styler
  • Drugstore
  • Sulfate-free
  • Silicone-free
Odele Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold — 8 oz container Odele

Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold

  • Styler
  • Drugstore
  • Sulfate-free
  • Silicone-free
Price, size & price per ounce
$9–11 8 oz · $1.22/oz
$11.99 8 oz · $1.50/oz
Value / price positioning
Priced with its peers $$$$$ Drugstore tier · costs less than 67% of the 13 refresh sprays we’ve priced
Priced with its peers $$$$$ Drugstore tier · costs less than 65% of the 157 gels we’ve priced
Best for hair types
Wavy–Coily The brand’s own claims name curly or textured hair. Your hair
Wavy–Coily Co-washes, curl creams, and gels are built around wave and curl. Your hair
Moisture level Same
High Humectants near the top — water-binding is a headline mechanism here. Your hair
High Humectants near the top — water-binding is a headline mechanism here. Your hair
Hold (as stated)
Light A light hold, as stated by the brand. Your hair
Medium A medium hold, as stated by the brand. Your hair
Slip / detangling Same
Little Nothing here is built to reduce combing force. Your hair
Little Nothing here is built to reduce combing force. Your hair
Weight on hair Same
Light Water-first and light: unlikely to flatten fine hair. Your hair
Light Water-first and light: unlikely to flatten fine hair. Your hair
Fragrance
Present Fragrance is listed; it sits below the working ingredients. Your hair
Present Fragrance is listed; it sits below the working ingredients. Your hair
Protein Differs
Minor Protein appears, low enough to be a supporting ingredient. Your hair
Prominent Protein high in the list — a strengthening formula, not a moisture one. Your hair
Silicone / wax buildup Same
None Nothing here needs a detergent wash to remove. Your hair
None Nothing here needs a detergent wash to remove. Your hair
Clarifying wash needed
Low Your hair
Low Your hair
Hold system Same
Mixed Gums and synthetic polymers together. Your hair
Mixed Gums and synthetic polymers together. Your hair
Cast risk Same
Likely Film formers without much softening them — expect a cast to scrunch out. Your hair
Likely Film formers without much softening them — expect a cast to scrunch out. Your hair
Oil absorption Same
None No absorbent powders or starches. Your hair
None No absorbent powders or starches. Your hair
Oils and butters Same
None No oils or butters in the list. Your hair
None No oils or butters in the list. Your hair
Fast-drying alcohol Same
None No fast-drying alcohol in the list. Your hair
None No fast-drying alcohol in the list. Your hair
Formula completeness
out of 10
Complete for its job
out of 10
Complete for its job
Who should choose this
  • Curly-method routinesno sulfates and no water-insoluble silicones
  • Curl definitionfilm formers hold a clump together
  • Fine hairthat flattens under most products
  • Silicone-free routinesno silicones appear in the list
  • Protein-hungry hairthat stretches and stays stretched when wet
  • Curly-method routinesno sulfates and no water-insoluble silicones
  • Curl definitionfilm formers hold a clump together
  • Fine hairthat flattens under most products
Why you might skip it
  • Scents bother youthis product carries a scent
  • Anyone who dislikes a castthe film formers here can set firm
  • Styles that must holdthe brand states a light hold at most
  • Scents bother youthis product carries a scent
  • Protein-sensitive hairthat goes stiff or straw-like on protein
  • Anyone who dislikes a castthe film formers here can set firm
from the formula stated by the brand reported by reviewers Scale: 1 dot low · 5 dots high, within this product type.
More facts about each one
Type
Stylerfoam
Stylergel
Where to buy
Brand website
Ulta · Odele.Co · Target
Free of
  • sulfate-free
  • silicone-free
  • curly-method compatible
  • sulfate-free
  • silicone-free
  • curly-method compatible
Vegan
Not vegan · label states
Vegan · brand states
Scent
Scented, not described
Scented, not described
Hold
lightFlexible hold
mediumMedium crunch-free hold
Finish
natural
—
How often
as needed
as needed

Facts as we recorded them. A dash means we have not researched that field for that product — it is not a "no".

The bottom line

The bottom line depends on your hair

Which of these two suits you is a question about your hair, not about them. The consultation answers it — and tells you what your routine needs around it.

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The detail behind the table

Where the readings above come from: the ingredient lists themselves, each brand’s claims checked against them, what owners report, and cost per ounce in context.

Shared and distinct ingredients

Shared and distinct ingredients

Computed from the ingredient lists as printed. "Shared" means both lists carry it; where it sits on each label is stated, because position is what tells you how much.

What both formulas carry

IngredientCurl Talk Refreshing Curl FoamFlex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold
Water
Neutral
#1Leading
#1Leading
Maltodextrin/VP Copolymer
Holds
#2Leading
#9Secondary
Polysorbate 20
Stabilizes
#4Supporting
#4Supporting
Phenoxyethanol
Stabilizes
#10Below the 1% line
#13Below the 1% line
Fragrance
Fragrance
#11Below the 1% line
#14Below the 1% line
Ethylhexylglycerin
Softens
#13Below the 1% line
#10Below the 1% line
Hydroxyethylcellulose
Holds
#12Below the 1% line
#8Supporting

What only one of them carries

Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam

Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold

Full ingredient list — Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam (14)
Full ingredient list — Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold (14)

Claims check

What each brand says, against what each formula shows

Claims are quoted from each brand. We only mark one supported, partly supported, or conflicting when that product’s ingredient list actually speaks to it.

VerdictsCurl Talk Refreshing Curl FoamFlex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold
Supported
6
1
Partly supported
0
0
Stated by brand
0
3
Potential conflict
0
2

Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam

  • Redefines curls with long-lasting shapeSupportedHolds a clump together.
  • Anti-frizzSupportedSmoother strands, less frizz.
  • Safe for color-treated hairSupportedLess fade per wash.
  • Silicone-freeSupportedNothing that needs a strong wash.
  • Sulfate-freeSupportedGentler on colour and coils.
  • Paraben-freeSupportedPreserved without parabens.

Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold

  • Medium crunch-free holdPotential conflictExpect a cast you have to scrunch out.
  • Flexible-hold stylingPotential conflictExpect a cast you have to scrunch out.
  • Long-lasting controlStated by brandCan’t be confirmed from label.
  • Clean ingredientsStated by brandCan’t be confirmed from label.
  • VeganSupportedMatches our researched record.
  • Cruelty freeStated by brandWorth checking on the label.

What owners say

What people report

Recurring themes our researchers wrote in their own words from sourced reviews. We do not store or scrape star ratings, and we never balance one product’s themes against another’s by inventing them.

Both praised for a clean rinse-out.

Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam

Works well on 3c/4a curl types

brand-site reviewer

Gives beautiful results with weekly use

brand-site reviewer

Refreshes curls without leaving them crunchy

brand-site reviewer

Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold

Manages curly hair well overnight, leaving it non-frizzy and never crunchy the next day

curly-hair Ulta reviewer

Hold level is 'perfect' for their hair and the scent is a standout positive

Ulta reviewer

Works on curly and wavy hair without adding weight or leaving hair feeling dried out

curly/wavy-hair Ulta reviewer

Squeeze-bottle application is easy and delivers strong hold with visible volume, not too thick or watery

Ulta reviewer describing overall use

Price check

Cost per ounce, in context

Cost per ounce against every product of this type we have priced, each at the size it is most often sold in. Value labels are computed from that percentile and from how many products that do the same job cost less; they are comparisons, not judgements about a brand.

$1.22/oz vs $1.50/oz — Odele Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold costs about 1.2× more per ounce than Not Your Mother's Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam.

Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam

Against 13 refresh sprays with a computable unit price.

Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold

Against 157 gels with a computable unit price.

Value readCurl Talk Refreshing Curl FoamFlex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold
Label
Priced with its peersSits in the middle of the range for refresh sprays per ounce.
Priced with its peersSits in the middle of the range for gels per ounce.

Computed from cost per ounce against every product of this type we have priced, and from how many products that do the same job cost less. It is a comparison, not a judgement about the brand.

Compare with something else

Close formulas to each of these, as their own comparison pages.

Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam vs Texture Tonic Texturizing SprayAveda · 96% function matchFlex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold vs Texture Tonic Texturizing SprayAveda · 93% function matchCurl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam vs Root Boost Uplifting SprayCurlsmith · 96% function matchFlex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold vs Morning After Redefining Foam For Styling And Curl RefreshingMixed Chicks · 93% function matchCurl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam vs Morning After Redefining Foam For Styling And Curl RefreshingMixed Chicks · 96% function matchFlex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold vs Root Boost Uplifting SprayCurlsmith · 93% function matchCurl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam vs I Create HoldInnersense · 93% function matchFlex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold vs Thickening High Drama Styling Hair Foam for Thinning Hair - 1.5 ozBumble and bumble · 89% function match

Curl Talk Refreshing Curl Foam · Flex Hair Gel for Medium Crunch-Free Hold · All refresh sprays in the library

How this page was made

  • This page is assembled from the same researched records the individual product pages render: identity, each ingredient list as printed, each brand's own claims, dated price observations, and review themes written in our researchers' own words. Nothing on it is written per comparison.
  • We do not rank these against each other. Which of them suits you depends on your hair, and that is what the consultation works out.
  • The formula similarity percentage is a stored, precomputed number: position-weighted overlap of the two ingredient lists blended with agreement on the attributes we derive. It measures how alike two formulas are, not how well either works.
  • The value band is a fixed label over two stored numbers: this product’s cost per ounce as a percentile of every product of this type we have priced, each at the size it is most often sold in, and how many products we score as doing the same job cost at least a quarter less per ounce.
  • The "Is this right for you?" panel reads only your own consultation answers, and it applies exactly the filters our recommendation engine applies. It is computed when you load the page and is never stored on it.
  • 2 sources were consulted across the products on this page.
  • Ingredient order tells you relative amount only above roughly 1%. Prices are observations on the dates shown and change without notice. We do not sell these products and take no placement fees.
  • This is cosmetic information, not medical advice, and nothing here diagnoses or treats a health condition.

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